So, you’ve heard that there is a lot of free data that you can use in your GIS software. Well, some of that free data, you can also use in Civil 3D. Civil 3D is built on top of MAP so all that free GIS data, you can use as GIS data in Civil 3D. But, I don’t want to use it as GIS data, I want it to be Civil 3D data! Well, if you have a DEM (Digital Elevation Model), you can add that to a surface and away you go! Follow the link to find out more.
Finding Free GIS Data
If you already have the DEM file, you can skip on down to “Using the DEM in a Surface”. So, where can you find all this free data? Well, that’s what Google is for. Do a search for the county name your project is in coupled with Digital Elevation Model. In my example, I live in Larimer County, Colorado so I Googled “Larimer County Digital Elevation Model”. Don’t search for DEM or you’ll end up finding a lot of information about the local Democratic Party. You can see the results of this search HERE. One of the links about half way down is to the Larimer County page at geocomm.com (follow link HERE). Follow the link to the Digital Elevation Model and choose which one you want. Well, I chose the Big Narrows (an oxymoron you may ask? Not if you’ve been there!) because it’s a great spot for fly fishing (if you read this and want to join me for some fishing, let me know) and was also the site of the devestating flood that killed 143 people (wikipedia). Sign up for the site, it’s free, and download the file. I’m sure there are other sites to get this type of data but, this is the one I used.
The file that you download will look like it has a lot of extensions to it – 1704113.DEM.SDTS.TAR.GZ is the file I downloaded. As you can see, it does not end in the DEM format. Typically, the file you download will need to be converted to a DEM file. Depending on the source of the file, you’ll have to use different methods. Here is what I did to convert the file I downloaded. First thing, I had to decompress it. the .GZ file is a compressed file similar to a .zip file. I used 7zip to decompress it. The file that was decompressed is 1704113.DEM.SDTS.TAR. This is also a compressed file I decompressed using 7zip. This time I decompressed it to a folder for for the DEM. There are a lot of files in here that I will then use to create the DEM file. To do this, I downloaded a piece of software called SDTStoDEM from the University of Arizon (HERE). I placed the executable in the same folder, ran it, and it created a DEM file of whatever name I choose.
Using the DEM in a surface
Now that I have this great DEM file, what can I do with it? Well, in Civil 3D, I can use it in a surface. There is an option in the program to create a surface from a DEM file. This works great if your drawing is in the same coordinates as your DEM file.
If your drawing is in a different coordinate system, this routine will not work. If you need to translate your DEM file to a different coordinate system, simply add the DEM file to a regular ol’ surface. The DEM file can be added to a surface as data just as a point file can be added. Right click on DEM file and choose add.
In the dialog box, browse to the DEM file. Now, here’s the part that most people seem to miss, in the Add DEM File dialog box, you must set the coordinate system of the DEM file. Simply make it match the meta data provided with the DEM file and you’ll be good to go.
Here is the result. I’ve created a drawing, assigned NAD 83 Colorado North Zone Foot as the coordinate system, brought in the DEM file that was in NAD27 Zone 13 Meter, and it comes into the right location. I then drew a rectangle around the surface, exported it to Google Earth, and then imported the Google Earth image into my drawing and it comes in just as expected.
If you want to only use a portion of the DEM file for your surface, you can apply a Data Clip Boundary to the surface before adding the DEM.




February 2, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Hi Brian,
In case you were not aware of it, the USGS distributes free seamless GIS data via the National Map. Simple draw a rectangle for your area of interest and you can then download DEM’s, Topo maps, imagery, cadastral data and more, all clipped to the area of interest. It is an invaluable GIS resource..a one stop shop!
http://seamless.usgs.gov/
February 2, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Nope. Didn’t know about it. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I’ll have to check it out! Thanks Neil. That’s one of the reasons I wanted to do this blog, so I can help others and others can help me to help others better.
February 5, 2010 at 6:27 am
I second Niel’s National Map recommendation. Excellent source.
February 24, 2010 at 7:43 am
Thank you for posting this information. I have tried pulling DEM files from the USGS Seamless server and have never had the option of downloading DEM files. When I download the 1″, 1/3″, 1/9″ NED files, I get .adf files that can be imported to Civil 3D but they don’t create good surfaces. It seems like there isn’t enough point information for Civil 3D to connect the dots and make a good surface. Any suggestions on pulling DEM files or importing .adf files?
Thanks!!
March 18, 2010 at 7:59 am
Thanks so much for posting this, very useful! I had missed adding the CS codes when I tried this in the past. I’m still perplexed though, because I’m using ADF data from the the seamless.usgs.gov to download, but I’m working in feet. The horizontal datum comes in correctly, but now my elevations are metric! Anyone know a solution?
March 18, 2010 at 10:32 am
Hi Alan,
I’m seeing the same issues that you see. It seems to be something to do with the format that the seamless data and Civil3D doesn’t recognize it. Sorry I don’t have a solution for you.
September 26, 2011 at 3:11 pm
The only solution I have been able to find that works is to create the surface in a metric drawing (includihg metric coordinate system). Export the surface as a LandXML file and then import it back into the original drawing you are trying to work in. With large surfaces though Civil 3D crashes frequently during the conversion process so make sure you save your metric drawing.
November 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm
These are great instructions, but C3D NEVER correctly recognizes the coordinate system of the DEM I am trying to add.
November 19, 2012 at 4:02 pm
I suppose that depends on the type of DEM file you are bringing in. If you have access to Autodesk Infrastructure Modeler (AIM), try bringing the DEM into that first as I have yet to see AIM not recognize the coordinate system.
November 28, 2012 at 7:30 pm
I don’t see the [...] by the CS Code box when I should “set the coordinate system of the DEM file” so C3D 2013 doesn’t perform the translation and Datum conversion between the DEM file and my drawing settings. Anyone else not have the [...] ?
December 1, 2012 at 4:39 pm
You have to select the cell prior to seeing the ellipsis [...].
Before selecting the cell: http://screencast.com/t/70iaZERjm7
After selecting the cell: http://screencast.com/t/XkW4bp0l7sH5
December 10, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I don’t see the elipsis either :(
December 23, 2012 at 3:12 pm
I see it every time I click in the cell. Go get Jing (it’s a free program that lets you record your screen and share it for free) and record what you are doing. Share it here and we’ll figure it out.